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11 Kasım 2014 Salı

20. Direwolves



Lets talk about the sigil of our favourite house, the direwolf. These wolves were much bigger than regular wolves and believed to be extinct. They are also more intelligent than regular wolves (if you ask me, they are smarter than lots of people in the books too :) ). Direwolves were introduced at the start of the first book. The six children of Eddard Stark adopted six baby direwolves. If they were found by any of the other Houses in Westeros, the pups will probably be killed on sight. But the direwolf is the sigil of the Starks and Eddard Stark is a superstitious man. He let his children keep the direwolves but with a condition; they must take care of the pups by themselves, nurse them, feed them and most importantly train them.
    1.  Shaggydog:  This one belongs to Rickon Stark, youngest of the Stark family. Contrary to Snow, this one is completely black. Like its color, it is opposite of the Ghost. While Ghost remains mostly silent, Shaggy is mostly ill-tempered. Like Rickon, it becomes angry and vicious after the fall of Bran. It was chained and kept away from castle folk.
    2. Summer: Last named direwolf at Stark family. Although most of the GOT fans like Snow the most, I prefer Summer. All naming process reflects their respective owners but Summer reflects the hope of all Northern People. In a land of caution (Winter is coming, anyone?), a symbol of hope appeals to me the most. Or maybe it is only the way it was presented to me :)
    3. Nymeria: The free spirit. It is like a combination of Shaggydog and Summer. It can attack to protect the family but I cant image it being as savage as Shaggydog. From time to time Arya sees through her wolf, but she does not control it as her brothers do. Still it would be cool to see these two killers meet again.
    4. Lady: The victim. It was a cute and obedient member of the direwolf family but I dont have much to say about it. Maybe because I dont like the portrayal of Sansa very much. To compensate my lack of interest in Lady, here is a fun fact: When Season 1 wrapped up, the dogs used as direwolves were offered to the young actors who played their owners in the show. Sophie Turner (Sansa) took the dog who played Lady. Isaac Hempstead-Wright (Bran) wanted to take Summer, but his family already had two dogs at home. (http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Direwolves)
    5. Grey Wind: Maybe Robb could be the king if only he listened to Grey Wind and avoided the Red Wedding. However ,like they battle together, they died together. After they die, the Frey men cut off Robb's head and sew Grey Wind's onto his body. To be honest I expect them to return from the dead as the first werewolf of the Westeros and avenge its family. One can dream, right :) ?
    6. Ghost: Jon Snow named his albino direwolf Ghost because white walkers were already taken. They share skinchanging abilities and he is much more informed (second only to Bran) on skinchangers because of the information he gathered from the Wildlings. Both wolf and boy go to the Wall and beyond it to defend the kingdom from the Others.
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6 Kasım 2014 Perşembe

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I feel like every few months there's a new summary of the houses plot for non-readers/watchers lol. But basically, at the beginning of the series house Baratheon is in control of the Iron Throne and King Robert Baratheon rules Westeros, and has been ruling for the past 15 years after overthrowing the Mad King, Aerys II Targaryen. With the recent death of the Hand of the King, Jon Arryn, Robert rides to Winterfell to offer the position to Eddard 'Ned' Stark.

At the same time, Daenerys and Viserys Targaryen, surviving children of the Mad King, are across the Narrow Sea in Essos, where Viserys has just married off Daenerys to Khal Drogo in hopes of getting his Khalasar to help Viserys win back the Iron Throne. on Daenerys' wedding day, she gets the gift of three dragon eggs, a three-headed dragon being the symbol of house Targaryen.

Back in Westeros, Jon Snow, illegitimate son of Ned Stark, plans to go the Wall. It's a gigantic wall of ice manned by the members of the Night's Watch, a group of men dedicated to protecting Westeros from threats from north of the Wall. And that pretty much puts you at the start of the series.

With all the houses being families, I wouldn't feel right giving a personality summary as each character is different. House Baratheon - Sigil: Crowned Black Stag on a Yellow Field - Words: Ours is the Fury - Seats: Storm's End & King's Landing - Head: King Robert House Stark - Sigil: Grey Direwolf on an Ice-White Field - Words: Winter is Coming - Seat: Winterfell, Head: Eddard, called 'Ned.'

House Lannister - Sigil: Golden Lion on a Crimson Field - Words: Hear Me Roar, commonly misattributed as A Lannister Always Pays his Debts - Seat: Casterly Rock - Head: Tywin - Notable for being incredibly rich Targaryen - Sigil: Three-headed Red Dragon on a Black Field - Words: Fire and Blood - Seats: Red Keep (Formerly) Dragonstone (Formerly) Summerhall (Formerly) - Head: Queen Daenerys - "Like their dragons the Targaryens answered to neither gods nor men"
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3 Kasım 2014 Pazartesi

19.This is not Winterfell-BENJEN STARK

Alright everybody, get ready for this one... This is going to seem farfetched but at least this theory hasn't been discussed yet so it will give you something to ponder! Before I continue I would like to say that this theory came to me after reading the books and as the books are not with me at work right now nothing is referenced and therefore some details could be off (although this isn’t so much as a line for line theory as a bigger idea right now).
Benjen Stark's whereabouts always has intrigued me in large part because he went missing early on in the first novel and has yet to resurface.
The first option for Benjen that most people (myself included) go to is that he is Coldhands. Easy enough right? The child of the forest disproves this in my eyes by implying that Coldhands has been around for a lot longer than Benjen has been missing for. We all know that GRRM likes to disguise his characters as other characters and no character is ever dead without a firsthand account. By this logic I will make the argument that no, Benjen is not frozen to death in a ditch North of the Wall but instead he is in disguise as another character we know.
Well that raises a lot more questions since there are so many characters. Ones that can be ruled out immediately are people that would recognize Benjen. Therefore, he isn't with any of the Starks or with anyone familiar with the Stark family. Wow, that doesn't leave us many options now does it?
Before moving on with this I will also state that I believe Jon Snow is the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar. Also, Benjen was said to be close with Lyanna and therefore I will make the biggest assumption of this theory (please don't condemn me for this one): Benjen Stark is aware that John is Lyanna's son and that Lyanna loved Rhaegar (also an assumption, I know). The justification for this is that if Lyanna didn't ever make her feelings towards Rhaegar known to Benjen, Ned would. Why would Ned? To me it seems like why wouldn't Ned? Benjen is family and would deserve to know the truth about his sister and since he is safe on the wall, Ned wouldn't be paranoid that Benjen could let it slip after a few too many brews at the family reunion.
Okay so to summarize where our thought process is right now:
Benjen is alive and disguised as another character
Benjen is aware of Lyanna's relationship with Rhaegar and her Targaryen sympathy (she chose Rhaegar over her own brother and father even if unintentionally)
Alright so back to who could Benjen be in disguise? As already demonstrated by Barristan, Dany is the perfect victim to be fooled for a character in disguise. She was raised in Essos and literally is not familiar with most of the characters in Westeros and she is willingly accepting help from strangers (from her perspective) for the most part. Therefore it is conceivable that Benjen is with Dany and she has no idea.
The next question that this brings up is why would Benjen go to Dany? Here there is definitely room for interpretation so this next part is completely what I feel makes sense.
Benjen is the First Ranger of the Nights Watch. He understands the true magnitude of the danger (the Others) that the Seven Kingdoms is about to be faced with. If Benjen was to learn about Dany and her dragons he could reason that they would be a huge help in the coming war against Ice. How did Benjen learn of Dany and her dragons though? Ships from Essos occasionally make their way North so that's possible. Information tends to move through Varys so maybe he even suggested it to Benjen as a part of his grand scheme. Or maybe Benjen saw her in the fire similar to the way others have (I know Benjen hasn't had any Fire Priest tendencies before but this could be an exception). If Benjen knew of Lyanna’s love for Rhaegar and that they had a child together he would be much more receptive to helping Dany.
Okay, so if you've stuck with me to this point, Benjen possibly could have gone to Dany to help her and guide her to the wall where he knows she needs to be (by instinct, Varys or prophecy I don't know). Another side point to make is that Dany is unwillingly collecting a legendary assortment of individuals about her in preparation for her destiny. A Stark would definitely be an asset to her.
Who then could Benjen be if indeed he went to Dany? This is where the theory materializes.
I think that Benjen Stark is undercover as Daario Naharis. I can hear some of your screams of denial already. Why Daario you ask? That seems completely random and improbable!!! Yes, maybe that is true or maybe there's more to meet the eye.
First let's start with their appearances. Both seem to be of similar age and average build (warrior types smaller than the Hound/Mountain). Not saying much I know but at least they aren’t worlds apart. I believe both have blue eyes but once again I don’t have the book with me to quote anything. Both have beards and long hair (hardly a tell tale sign but still a match nonetheless). My next point convinces me the most however. Daario seems like he is in a disguise. Yes, technically all Tyroshi would seem that way but what better person for Benjen to pretend to be than a man that dyes his hair blue, has piercings and wears bright, distracting colors? One glance and you say "Oh that's a Tyroshi sell sword" and think nothing of it. If Benjen were to hide his appearance, a Tyroshi get up is the equivalent to a costume.
Alright so maybe these two guys look similar and maybe Benjen is posing as a Tyroshi sell sword as a disguise but how would it come about? The timeline seems to work for them both. Benjen disappeared early on and could have gone East and joined a mercenary band. He's a very capable fighter as are most Starks and particularly the First Ranger of the Night's Watch. Therefore it is believable that Benjen rose in the ranks of a mercenary group very quickly, just in time for Dany to come strolling along. The company had three leaders at the time so it seems as if the leaders are flexible and probably combat based (not as formal as the Golden Company per say). But before I continue on this thought let me jump away briefly.
I'm sure many of you are still feeling like Daario was just a random guess of who Benjen could be and you're right, it is. However, I have been suspicious of Daario right from the start. What are his motives? He meets Dany for the first time and immediately kills his fellow leaders to gain control of the mercenary band and support her. Why do this? Certainly sell swords are treacherous so the betrayal isn't the surprise but why betray his comrades to join Dany? She has dragons and she's hot and she has the makings of an army and potential to be Queen. If that's enough for you than you should stop reading this. If you are like me and you don't think it’s enough, let’s continue. A sell sword would want to see a return on his investment, in this case for supporting Dany. As Davos' pirate demonstrated, sell swords and pirates are typically not patient when it comes to compensation. Yet Daario is so patient and utterly loyal right from the beginning...... two characteristics that scream out to me as him being a fake sell sword!
If Daario is Benjen in disguise, his rapid loyalty and support for Dany makes sense. Having sex with her seems like a random thing for Benjen to do but if she is as hot as she sounds and Benjen wants to earn her trust why not? I definitely would in his situation.
The next question one might have would be why would Benjen just abandon his brothers on the Night's Watch like this? He swore an oath to serve the realm until his death! Starks do not take oaths lightly. Well technically he still is keeping his oath. In fact, helping Dany and enlisting the best chance for help the Night's Watch has ever had is doing more for the realm than any of the boys freezing their dicks off on the wall. But why wouldn't he tell anyone? Well the Commander would probably argue he has more value on the wall than chasing a wannabe princess so faking his death would be the only option for an extended leave of absence like this. Once again, if Varys has a role in this, that would be the first thing he would suggest to do.
Another point is that Benjen's disappearance with Jon's arrival seems coincidental but what if it was intentional? It is said that a Stark must always be on the wall. Perhaps Benjen, knowing Jon's background and maybe he has some other insight as well about Jon's importance (Azor Ahai anyone?), needed to bring Jon to the wall prior to leaving to help Dany. Sure, some say that Benjen came to Winterfell due to the rarity and grandeur of the King coming North but there could be more to that as well. What if Benjen, privy to the fact that Robert was coming to drag Ned South, knew a visit to Jon would convince him to join him on the wall. By playing a little devil's advocate and saying the wall will always be there for him, he gambled that Jon would be more excited rather than deterred. Benjen might not have known for sure if it would work but maybe once Jon joined the Night's Watch so quickly Benjen was able to proceed with his bigger plans and head East.
So to summarize a bit, I think that Benjen Stark is Daario Naharis in disguise because:
1) It is likely Benjen is alive and another character (GRRM's style).
2) Dany is ignorant about the people in Westeros making Benjen joining her possible and also she is important making Benjen's purpose more plausible.
3) Daario hasn't behaved like a typical sell sword would and his dyed beard and piercings would make a perfect disguise for Benjen.
4) Benjen must have a bigger role to play in the grand scheme of things or he would have been found dead already. What bigger role could he have than helping Dany bring the dragons to the wall and save the Seven Kingdoms from the Others?
I think that covers all I wanted to say AND I effectively wasted an hour at work. Double success. Let me know what you guys think if any of you have the heart or stomach to get through this and try not to ruthlessly rip it apart since I haven’t even reread the books with this theory in mind. Sorry for the length of the post but I wanted to convey all of my thoughts since this theory is walking on thin ice (pun intended).
EDIT: Something to consider as well that I thought of after that some of you might find interesting would be that Benjen=Daario would have very strong parallels with Jon going undercover with the wildlings. Both had to abandon their brothers in a time of need for a greater cause, both had to lie about being brothers of the Nights Watch and both even had to forsake their vow to never have sex for the success of their missions (once again assuming Benjen/Daario did so in order to gain her trust and protect her). Also related to protecting her, if Benjen was a pawn of Varys maybe it was Varys' idea to gain a mercenary group so that Dany had more soldiers at her disposal for her protection.
Thanks everybody for the feedback and enthusiasm
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1 Kasım 2014 Cumartesi

14. You know nothing JON SNOW-YIGRITTE

Ygritte is part of a wildling scouting party in Rattleshirt's band, including Orell and one other, that is ambushed in the Skirling Pass by men of the Night's Watch including Jon Snow andStonesnake. Her companions are slain, but Ygritte is spared as Jon balks at killing a woman. She yields, but only offers very minimal information. As she and Jon wait for the arrival ofQhorin Halfhand, Jon reveals to her that he is Ned Stark's bastard, and she tells him the story of Bael the Bard, a song which insinuates that the Starks have wildling blood as well. Jon scoffs at this idea, calling the Bard a liar. She shrugs it off and is brought to the Halfhand, who instructs Jon to do what must be done with her. Presuming that to be an order to kill her, Jon nevertheless lets her escape.
She is present when Jon Snow, under Qhorin's implicit command, slays the Halfhand and purports to turn his cloak.
After Jon meets with Mance Rayder and convinces him he has turned his cloak in truth, he is told to ride with Tormund Giantsbane. Ygritte follows him to Tormund's company and routinely beds down next to him, though he initially refuses her advances.
When the wildling band, now well on its way to the Wall, comes upon the scene of the slaughter at the Fist of the First Men, Mance is furious with Jon as he did not warn him of the Night's Watch force there. To save Jon, Ygritte lies and tells Mance that the two are sexually involved. This knowledge helps to convince Mance that Jon has turned his cloak in truth. That night, Ygritte seduces him, and the two begin a torrid, intensely sexual affair as they march for the Wall.
When Jon is commanded to join with Styr as part of the advance party for the assault on the Wall, which is to scale the Wall and attack Castle Black from the south, Ygritte joins him.
South of the Wall, at Queenscrown, Styr's band comes upon a lone knight, whom they capture. Styr, still suspicious of Jon's true loyalties, orders Jon to slay the man. Jon refuses, and Ygritte slits the man's throat instead. In the confusion created by a raging thunderstorm and the sudden emergence of Summer, Bran Stark's direwolf, Jon escapes, despite Ygritte shooting him in the leg with an arrow as he starts to run.
Ygritte continues to Castle Black with Styr's band, but Jon has forewarned the castle of their arrival and the attack is thwarted. Along with the rest of the wildling band, Ygritte is killed, mortally wounded by an arrow. Jon finds her on the battlefield, where she dies in his arms
Ygritte was our great hope. We prayed that the showrunners would defy the books and give her more time in Westeros (what with Daenerys’ sleepy storyline and Margaery gone the way of Ser Pounce (that is, hidden from our view), we’re short on incredible female characters.We needed Ygritte. 
When she finally found Jon Snow and looked upon him with arrow aimed at his heart, she was everything we’d always wanted her to be. You could see the love in her eyes, yet she still held her own beliefs and goals above all. Then, when the boy from the Nights Watch shot her with an arrow, she almost melted. All that was left was her love for Jon Snow, as would be the case for anyone living through her last few seconds on Earth. Jon held her close as her breath left her and she used her final puffs of air to tell him she wished they’d stayed in the cave where they consummated their love before ending her life with the words that made us love her forever: “You know nothing, Jon Snow.” And there was not a dry eye in all of America with those final words as flames surrounded the grieving Jon and his lover’s limp body. 
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29 Ekim 2014 Çarşamba

11. My mind is my weapon. My brother has his sword, King Robert has his warhammer and I have my mind... and a mind needs books as a sword needs a whetstone if it is to keep its edge. That’s why I read so much- TYRION LANNISTER(IMP)



Tyrion Lannister is a member of House Lannister and is the third and youngest child of Lord Tywin Lannister and the late Joanna Lannister. His older siblings are Cersei Lannister, the queen of King Robert Baratheon, and Ser Jaime Lannister, a knight of Robert'sKingsguard.
Tyrion is a dwarf; because of this he is sometimes mockingly called the Imp and the Halfman. He is one of the major POV characters in the books


Tyrion was born the third child of Tywin and Joanna Lannister. Joanna died giving birth to him, and as a result his father blamed him for her death and hates him for that and for his deformity. Tyrion finds himself excluded from regular family life, especially by his father and by his sister, who abused him during his childhood.
As a child, Tyrion knew he would never be a knight, and so thought to become the High Septon instead, since that crystal crown added a foot to one's height. When Tyrion was thirteen, he and his brother Jaime rescued a common girl, Tysha, from some bandits, and thoughts of love quickly replaced those of priesthood. While Jaime went after the bandits Tyrion took care of Tysha. To his amazement Tysha liked him, and they eventually made love. Tyrion became so enamoured by her that he bribed a septon and married her in secret. Tysha would sing the Myrish song "The Seasons of My Love". Their happiness lasted only two weeks, however, before Tyrion’s father got news of the wedding. Lord Tywin commanded Jaime to say that Tysha was a prostitute whom Jaime had hired for Tyrion’s benefit. Because the “whore” had presumed to marry a Lannister, Tywin had his entire guard rape Tysha for a silver each and then made Tyrion go last for a gold coin, because a Lannister is worth more.
After his brother’s proposed marriage to Lysa Tully fell through when Aerys named Jaime to the Kingsguard, Tywin offered Tyrion as a replacement, only to be told by Hoster Tully that his daughter required a “whole man”.
When Tyrion became a man at sixteen, he was forbidden from taking a tour of the nine Free Cities as his uncles Gerion and Tygett had done. Instead, Tywin gave him charge of all the cisterns and drains at Casterly Rock.
Lets start from A DANCE WITH DRAGONS page 577 about Tyrion Lannister;

"Prince Aerys (the Mad King)... as a youth, he was taken with a certain lady of Casterly Rock, a cousin of Tywin Lannister. When she and Tywin wed, (Aerys/Mad King) drank too much win at the wedding feast and was heard to say that it was a great pity that the lord's right to the first night had been abolished... the liberties (that Aerys/Mad King) took during the bedding." Ser Barristan to Dany

A FEAST FOR CROWS
Page 533
"The Imp is no longer my brother, if he ever was." Cersei Lannister
Page 503
"... but Tyrion is Tywin's son, not you. I said so once to your father's face, and he would not speak to me for half a year." Aunt Genna to Jaime

A STORM OF SWORDS
Page 880
"You... you are no... no son of mine." Tywin's last words, spoken to his killer Tyrion.
Page 502 
"Aerys had chosen [Jaime] to spite his father, to rob Lord Tywin of his heir."

If this isn't a red herring (and I hope it is) There are a couple of choices:
1.King Aerys was Tyrion's father. 
2.King Aerys was Cersei and Jaime's father.

In favor of Tyrion, he's been interested in dragons since he was a child (GoT). Tywin said that he wasn't his son. Tywin was always cruel to Tyrion. Tyrion's hair is closer to Targaryen bleach blond, than Lannister blond. Tyrion doesn't get the greyscale because (just like Dany) he doesn't get sick.

In favor of Cersei/Jaime, Barristan said that the Aeyrs took "liberties" on Tywin's wedding night... so the older children would be the offspring. Jaime & Cersei seem to have been born to love each other (just as the Targaryen's do) and Cersei's only other attraction was to Rhaeger who would be her half-brother. Cersei gets fascinated with fire.


I'm somewhat surprised at how mis-interpreted some basic human behavior here is. 

The whole "you're no son of mine" is not a hint or whatever, it's just Tywin throwing one last insult at Tyrion, expressing his hate and disgust and dislike of him.

Same with Cersei's comment, she hates Tyrion and she'd love it if he wasn't actually her brother and she'd probably love to believe it but I'm pretty sure deep down she knows he is her brother and she's really pissed off because of that, to be linked in any way whatsoever to this person she hates so much.
Same goes for Tywin. I think both actually "know" that Tyrion is really their son/brother, they just despise him so much they actually try to convince themselves that he's not. That's just human behavior, there's no secret meaning there.

When you write some test in school and you know you suck and you can only have failed it you still try to convine yourself, hold out hope, "maybe it'll still be enough, maybe I'll still make it.", just for an example many should understand.

Martin throws some hints about some things here and there but you CAN over-interpret things.

I'm 100% convinced Tyrion is Tywin's son, only Tywin and Cersei hate him so much and for Tywin him being a dwarf+his wife having died in childbirth is enough to loathe Tyrion, there doesn't have to be some secret reason like him actually being Aerys son or whatever.

Tyrion being interested in dragons also is not some secret hint. Hell, dragons are cool and in that world they actually existed, which child would not be fascinated by them. Only Tyrion, being highborn, actually was able to read more about them than the peasants and watch the dragons' skulls etc.

If Aerys actually had taken Tywin's wife at all and/or before Tywin their whole relationship would have been VASTLY different, Tywin wouldn't have become Hand and he actually might have had Aerys killed some way. There was no way he could have borne such a slight.

As for Cersei being attracted to Rhaegar - by all accounts he was one magnificent man, both in qualities as in looks, probably one of the few men actually looking at least as good or better than Jaime. There doesn't need to be some secret half-brother relationship between Cersei and Rhaegar for her to be attracted to him. 

Also, Rhaegar wasn't the only man she was attracted to. She also said she was attracted to Robert when they were married, him also being quite a hunk apparently. She only grew to hate him when he grunted Lyanna's name during their wedding night.

All three Lannister children feature the Lannister looks and not a bit of Targaryen. Tyrion's paler hair is just designed to even further illustrate how deformed he is compared to his oh so beautiful and perfect siblings.

Overall - I think you read too much into some things and misinterpret others.
There are many, many hints in this series and many red herrings - e.g. the new one about Jon Snow - but not absolutely every line has to hint at something secret.  

Why people hate Tyrion Lannister?

Okay, you’re totally allowed to do that.  If I’m honest with myself, I can think of probably fifty reasons off the top of my head that Tyrion might get on your nerves/piss you off/make you want to bash him over the head with a rock.  (I mean, ngl, if you really hate Tyrion Lannister - like, not just dislike him, but actively, aggressively hate him - we’re probably not going to make good fandom friends.  BUT that doesn’t mean I don’t respect your right to do so; we can happily ignore each other!  That’s the great thing about tumblr - all these little sections of fandom that allow you to find people who think similarly.   Or who don’t, when you want a discussion!)  So my issue is not with the fact that people dislike Tyrion, but with the reasons why people dislike him.  (I’ve heard the same thing said about Sansa and Catelyn and other characters, and I agree there 100% as well.  But again, I’m probably biased concerning these two as well.)
So recently I’ve seen it suggested that the reason Tyrion employs prostitutes is that he enjoys having some sort of “sexual domination” over women.  I’m sorry, but, to me, coming to this conclusion seems to imply some purposeful misreading of Tyrion’s character as presented by the text.  We know why Tyrion turns to prostitutes.  It’s because hedoes not believe any woman could ever come to truly love him.  Because he literally believes that paying a woman is the only way she will ever sleep with him willingly.  And there’s no reason for him to think differently; the ‘Tysha incident’ taught him that.  Just last night, I saw someone comment that it seems odd that Tyrion, after suffering the sexual domination of his father, sought out sexual domination of prostitutes.  And yeah - that would be weird.

But that is not what is happening here.  Speaking of pre-ADwD Tyrion (I’m not touching ADwD Tyrion because I’ve already talked about that at length in other posts, and I don’t think I’m capable of discussing the subject briefly), at least, it’s of essential importance to him that all his sexual relations are consensual.  That the women he sleeps with want to sleep with him.  And that is why he turns to prostitutes.  Because, as Tywin taught him so harshly - when Tyrion was only thirteen fucking years old - the only way a woman is going to come to him consensually is for money.

Again, I don’t understand how this could not be clear from the text.  I really don’t.  Because we see what Tyrion does with Shae.  It’s nothing kinky or subversive - actually, it’s pretty vanilla.  He wants her to pretend to love him.  Because that’s the only kind of love he’s ever going to get - the kind that’s bought and paid for.  That’s pretty fucking tragic, to me, at least.

From this point, I’m going to move to another point of contention when it comes to Tyrion: what moves him not to sleep with Sansa on their wedding night.  I think it’s pretty clear given what we’ve just discussed.  He doesn’t sleep with Sansa because Tyrion only wants to sleep with women who want to sleep with him - and Sansa definitely doesn’t.  Again, the other day I saw it said on tumblr that this is an essentially selfish reason; he wants to feel loved, and he can’t if the person he’s sleeping with is obviously repulsed by/terrified of him.  And yes, that’s all true.  BUT.  Isn’t it also true that the fact that he feels there’s something intrinsically wrong with sleeping with a woman who doesn’t want him - even in a society that says it’s her duty to do so - means he has some basic grasp of morality (beyond that dictated to him by Westeros’ misogynistic mindset)?  Why would it even bother him if he didn’t?  (Remember, even in ADwD, he only considers sleeping with women who would rather not sleep with him once he’s made the mental leap to “I’m already such a bad person it’s entirely hopless for me to even try anymore.”  Even then, he thinks of this as something a bad person does.)

To me, twisting the decision Tyrion makes into something entirely selfish is not that much different from saying, “Well, she only stopped that person from being hit by a car because she would have felt guilty if she hadn’t!  Therefore, risking her life to save that person was ultimately a selfish decision.”  Really, by this logic, pretty much any decently moral decision can be made into something selfish.

But, even if it’s accepted that Tyrion did something decent by not touching Sansa because she didn’t want him to, we are then told he’s STILL selfish, because he’s hurt and upset that she doesn’t want to.  Now, please note I’m not denying that Sansa has it worse in this situation, but let’s take a look at Tyrion’s position.  He’s married to a woman who can’t stand the sight of him.  She’s openly told him she’s never going to be able to stand the sight of him (and OF COURSE I can’t blame her, but still).  He’s keeping a concubine in secret.  If his father ever finds out about this concubine, he’ll lose her too, because Tywin forbid him to have her.  (Not that Shae even really loves him, but at least she can bring herself to pretend to.)  So really, he’s been forbidden from ever having a loving relationship.  Of any kind.  I don’t know about you, but I’d be feeling pretty damn sorry for myself too.  And if that’s selfish, I don’t really give a fuck.

Because it sucks.

And finally, I don’t really have a good segue here, but I just want to touch on this because it’s been brought up a lot lately.  (Actually, who am I kidding?  It’s brought up a lot always.)  The idea that Tyrion killed Shae because he was a misogynist.  I’m just going to come right out and say right away that I’m not arguing that Tyrion isn’t a misogynist - because everyone in ASoIaF, even the women, have misogynistic tendencies.  Because THEY LIVE IN A MISOGYNISTIC SOCIETY.  Even the most fair-minded of them have internalized at least some of the bullshit they’ve heard their whole lives.  And I’m also not arguing that Tyrion’s murder of Shae was justified.  (For the record, I’m not really sure murder is ever justified.  So.)

What I am arguing is that the reaction people are expecting Tyrion to have to Shae’s betrayal is completely unrealistic.  Fandom seems to think Tyrion should have confronted Shae that night in Tywin’s bedchambers by saying: “Gee, Shae!  You just implicated me in a murder I didn’t commit while humiliating me via my disability in front of the entire court!  But that’s okay!  Please tell me why you did this.”  And I just wonder: Is there anyone in the world who would have reacted this way?  Really?  Again, I’m not saying killing Shae was the right thing to do!  But he didn’t do it because he was a misogynist.  Or because she’d exercised her “power” as a woman when she testified against him.  He did it because she’d betrayed him.  Really betrayed him.  In a way Bronn never did.

Sure, Bronn didn’t stand for Tyrion, but he also didn’t actively participate in his downfall either.  By testifying against him, Shae pretty much guaranteed that Tyrion would be put to death - and that didn’t really appear to be a source of conflict for her at all.  (I will concede that we don’t know this for sure, as we see this all from Tyrion’s very limited point of view, but remember, that’s how he sees it too.)  So looked at like that, it’s really not that hard to believe that - after losing everything, culminating in the love he thought Jaime had for him, as well as the love he’d tricked himself into believing he shared with Shae - Tyrion might snap and do something horrible.  Horrible, but - in my opinion - not unforgivable.  Because it was motivated by extreme human emotion and instability.  Tyrion’s convincing himself that Shae loved him had far more to do with his issues with his self-worth than it did to do with any internalized misogyny.

(I actually rather think that, had Shae broken down and told Tyrion she did what she did out of fear for her own life - which I personally don’t believe for a second, but it’s a valid theory - Tyrion wouldn’t have hurt her at all.  But that’s entirely speculation.)

I guess what I’m saying here with all of this is that Tyrion fucked up.  Not just in his murder of Shae, but in tons of ways throughout the series.  But to boil all of Tyrion’s flaws down to his misogyny - and to pretty much reduce his character to only that, while simultaneously erasing some important aspects of his disability experience and how that affects his self-worth - is really over-simplifying a character GRRM put a lot of effort (hundreds of pages of it!) into.

When it comes to ASoIaF, you can come up with some pretty solid reasons to dislike any character - that’s kind of the point, I think!  Because you can also come up with some pretty solid reasons to like them.  For me, Tyrion - even with all his flaws - is entirely relatable.  Even when his actions are frustrating and sometimes downright upsetting, I can always see why he acts the way he does.  While I can’t always support his actions, I can always understand them.  And that, my dears, is a feather in GRRM’s metaphorical cap!


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10. I will answer injustice with justice- DAENERYS TARGERYEN(STORMBORN)

This post will give a review (supported with quotes and passages) of the visions Daenerys Targaryen saw in the House of the Undying and speculate what they could mean.

In one room, a beautiful woman sprawled naked on the floor while four little men crawled over her. They had rattish pointed faces and tiny pink hands, like the servitor who had brought her the glass of shade. One was pumping between her thighs. Another savaged her breasts, worrying at the nipples with his wet red mouth, tearing and chewing.

This has been interpreted by many as the war that had been raging in Westeros at the time. The beautiful woman on the floor is Westeros itself, and the “four little men” who are crawling over her are the four kings. (As there were never actually five kings at the War of the Five Kings at the same time, because Balon Greyjoy crowned himself after Renly died.)
Since the House of the Undying shows visions of past, present and future, we cannot know for certain if the fourth “dwarf” represents Balon Greyjoy or Renly Baratheon. The interpretation is up to you.

Farther on she came upon a feast of corpses. Savagely slaughtered, the feasters lay strewn across overturned chairs and hacked trestle tables, asprawl in pools of congealing blood. Some had lost limbs, even heads. Severed hands clutched bloody cups, wooden spoons, roast fowl, heels of bread. in a throne above them sat a dead man with the head of a wolf. He wore an iron crown and held a leg of lamb in one hand as a king might hold a scepter, and his eyes followed Dany with mute appeal.

This is perhaps the most obvious vision/dream GRRM ever granted us. Obviously a foreshadowing of the Red Wedding.

Finally a great pair of bronze doors appeared to her left, grander than the rest. They swung open as she neared, and she had to stop and look. Beyond loomed a cavernous stone hall, the largest she had ever seen. The skulls of dead dragons looked down from its walls. Upon a towering barbed throne sat an old man in rich robes, an old man with dark eyes and long silver-grey hair.“Let him be king over charred bones and cooked meat,” he said to a man below him. “Let him be the king of ashes.”

In A Storm of Swords, Chapter 38, Jaime V [x], Jaime explains Brienne that the Mad King Aerys intended to burn down the city with wildfire when he realised that the war was lost after the Trident. He meant to have the greatest “funeral pyre” of them all. When he says “Let him be the king of ashes,” it’s clear that he’s talking about Robert Baratheon. 

Viserys, was her first thought the next time she paused, but a second glance told her otherwise. The man had her brother’s hair, but he was taller, and his eyes were a dark indigo rather than lilac.“Aegon,” he said to a woman nursing a newborn babe in a great wooden bed. “What better name for a king?”
“Will you make a song for him?” the woman asked. “He has a song,” the man replied. “He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire.” He looked up when he said it and his eyes met Dany’s, and it seemed as if he saw her standing there beyond the door.

“There must be one more,” he said, though whether he was speaking to her or the woman in the bed she could not say. “The dragon has three heads.” He went to the window seat, picked up a harp, and ran his fingers lightly over its silvery strings. Sweet sadness filled the room as man and wife and babe faded like the morning mist, only the music lingering behind to speed her on her way.

The Targaryen look (so much that Dany thought he was Viserys) of the man, the mention of a harp and the fact that he has a son named Aegon leaves no doubt in the mind that the man is Rhaegar Targaryen. Therefore, the woman is Elia of Dorne.

Rhaegar was quite obsessed with the Prince that was Promised prophecy. At first, because he was born to the tragedy of Summerhall, he thought he was the Prince that was Promised ("I will require a sword and armor. It seems I must be a warrior"), then, for whatever reason, he changed his mind and decided that his son would be the promised hero. (“He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire.”)

I do not know why he decided that there “must be three” if he thought Aegon was the hero; was it simply because “the dragon has three heads?” Or is it something more? Daenerys herself heard the number three (as will be explored shortly) quite often in the House of the Undying. It is also good to keep in mind that there are three names and versions about the hero who will fight the others: the Prince That Was Promised, Azor Ahai and the Last Hero. Did he believe that his “daughters” will also aid Aegon in the second War for the Dawn?
(Also, note that Rhaegar named his children Aegon and Rhaenys, and I’m almost certain that if he had another daughter, she would be named Visenya.)

Whatever the reason may be, he was determined that he must have another child. But Elia of Dorne was said to be “delicate and frail,” and probably couldn’t bear more children. Many fans, and I am among them, speculate that this is why he “kidnapped” Lyanna.

But that’s a topic for another meta. Let’s go back to the House of the Undying visions.
The true mystery of the visions start after this (after Daenerys finds the Undying) because every vision we have read before that point have been revealed quite clearly in the books.

… three fires must you light… one for life and one for death and one to love…
… three mounts must you ride… one to bed and one to dread and one to love…
… three treasons will you know… once for blood and once for gold and once for love…

Fires: One of these fires is the funeral pyre Daenerys lit for Drogo, which also helped her birth her dragons. I believe this is the “fire for life,” as the dragons were born directly from that fire. Some believe that it’s the “fire for love” because of Drogo. The interpretation is up to you.

The fire for “death” could very well be the fire Drogon will start shortly after this very point which will lead to destruction of the House of the Undying.

Mounts: The mount “for bed” is generally interpreted as her marriage bed to Drogo.
As far-fetched as it may sound, the mount for “dread” could be the foreshadowing of a very popular fan theory: Daenerys riding her dragons to the Wall against the Others. Or, it could have a simpler answer and mean Daenerys’ flight to Westeros to claim her birthright.
Treasons: Daenerys believes that the treason “for blood” was Mirri Maz Duur. And it probably was. She betrayed Daenerys for her own “blood” (kin, fellow villagers, whatever you want to name it), using blood magic.
Daenerys also believes that she has been betrayed for gold by Jorah when his treachery was revealed by Barristan Selmy, but I do not believe this. Jorah didn’t send reports to King’s Landing for gold, he sent it for a royal pardon so he could go home. I’m sure he was sent some amount of money as well, but that wasn’t his main goal.
Therefore, it still leaves (for certain): fire for love, mount to love, treason for gold and treason for love.
I believe Jorah will be the one who betrays her for love. Daario doesn’t truly love her (though I wouldn’t rule him out for “treason for gold,”) and I cannot think of another candidate who might betray Daenerys in that concept.
Aside from Daario, there is also Ilyrio Mopatis to consider for “gold.” Since he’s working with Varys and Varys is supporting Young Griff, Ilyrio could easily betray Daenerys and her cause.

Does anyone have any ideas about fire for love and mount to love? Feel free to send them.

Viserys screamed as the molten gold ran down his cheeks and filled his mouth. A tall lord with copper skin and silver-gold hair stood beneath the banner of a fiery stallion, a burning city behind him.

The first bit is Viserys’ death and doesn’t need explaining, but the second part is interesting. That description fits Rhaego (Dany and Drogo’s stillborn son) perfectly. Apparently he would have had his mother’s hair and his father’s looks.

This brings in the question if Rhaego was indeed going to be the Stallion Who Mounts the World but was stopped by the maegi… can prophecies be thwarted? By Jojen Reed, who was greendreams, we are led to believe that the foreseen future cannot be altered. Is this simply because greendreams and Mirri Maz Duur’s abilities are different types of magic, or were the crones of Vaes Dothrak were wrong and Rhaego was always destined to die? If he was, why would Daenerys see a vision of someone who was never meant to be?

Rubies flew like drops of blood from the chest of a dying prince, and he sank to his knees in the water and with his last breath murmured a woman’s name.

This is Rhaegar dying in the Trident, but the woman’s name that he murmured has been a topic of debate among the fandom for a while. Let’s see the possibilities:

Lyanna: This is what most fans seem to believe, and it is entirely possible. I personally believe that Rhaegar didn’t love Lyanna or vice versa, it was simply an arrangement of “I need a mother for the third head of the dragon” on Rhaegar’s side and “I want to be free and not marry Robert” on Lyanna’s side. But if you do believe that theirs was a love story, “Lyanna” would be an acceptable thing for Rhaegar to murmur in his last breath.
Elia: Whether because Rhaegar loved Lyanna but still felt ashamed for shaming his wife, or because he only had an arrangement Lyanna but actually truly loved Elia, this option is not so crazy.

Visenya: I did not consider this myself, until I have read this post of nobodysuspectsthebutterfly. As explored above, he was trying to “collect” (if you will) three heads of the dragon, so he likely suspected that Lyanna’s child would be a girl, and he would name her Visenya. (Imagine if this was true and the unborn Jon’s name was Visenya, though. I mean, doesn’t the fandom make fun of him enough already?)

Glowing like sunset, a red sword was raised in the hand of a blue-eyed king who cast no shadow. A cloth dragon swayed on poles amidst a cheering crowd. From a smoking tower, a great stone beast took wing, breathing shadow fire… mother of dragons, slayer of lies...

The blue-eyed king with no shadow is obviously Stannis, and the red sword is his so-called “Lightbringer.” 
The cloth dragon (also referred as “the mummer’s dragon”) is interpreted as the “Young Griff,” supposedly Aegon Targaryen. This vision is one of the main reasons why I do not believe Aegon is the real deal. “Mummer’s tricks” and “mummer’s farce” are usually used to describe something false and fake in ASOIAF. Furthermore, Varys used to be a mummer, and it could even be interpreted as “Varys’ dragon.”

Daenerys hears the phrase “slayer of lies” when she sees these visions. I think they’re a sign of how Stannis is not the true Azor Ahai, and Young Griff is not the real Aegon.

“From a smoking tower, a great stone beast took wing…” This could mean two things. One, Melisandre’s claim of Stannis Baratheon being the Azor Ahai reborn, and that she could “wake dragons from the stone.” This would also fit the “slayer of lies” phrase, as Stannis Baratheon is not the Azor Ahai reborn.
Although it’s rather striking that the description is very similar to Winterfell burning, seen through Summer’s eyes: “The smoke and ash clouded his eyes, and in the sky he saw a great winged snake whose roar was a river of flame. He bared his teeth, but then the snake was gone.”

Daenerys could be having a vision of Winterfell burning, but the “slayer of lies” bit wouldn’t make sense in that concept. Unless… Melisandre has been seeing the same vision, but misinterpreted it as “waking the dragons” in Dragonstone. In which case it would be a lie, and she would be sadly wasting her time.

There is another theory; some fans believe that there was a dragon in Winterfell, but that will be explored in another post.

Her silver was trotting through the grass, to a darkling stream beneath a sea of stars.

It could simply be a memory from the past, but given how Daenerys still has two “mounts” to ride (one to love and one to dread), perhaps Silver could be one of them?

A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright in his dead face, grey lips smiling sadly.
Some have speculated that this is Maester Aemon. Though I believe it’s Jon Connington or Victarion Greyjoy.
Jon: His eyes are bright and he is smiling because he’s still alive and believes that he’s helping “his silver prince’s” son to regain his birthright. His face is dead, his lips are grey and his smile is sad, because he’s dying of greyscale.

There has been hints that a greyscale epidemic might start in Westeros (through Shireen and Patchface), and if Jon Connington arrives to Seven Kingdoms as well… that can’t be very good.

Victarion: Certain passages in ADWD has suggested that this figure (which was seen again in visions and fires later) is one of Daenerys’ intended “husbands.” The “corpse” description could be a foreshadowing of his fate, and the “bright-eyed, dead-face” state could be a result of Moqorro’s healing, as sorcery always comes with a price.

A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness…. mother of dragons, bride of fire…

This seems like another arrow at R+L=J theory. Blue flower representing Lyanna’s son, Jon, at the Wall.
The “bride of fire” phrase is also used to speculate about a possible Daenerys/Jon endgame.
A little girl ran barefoot toward a big house with a red door.
Daenerys’ childhood, perhaps?

Mirri Maz Duur shrieked in the flames, a dragon bursting from her brow. Behind a silver horse the bloody corpse of a naked man bounced and dragged. A white lion ran through grass taller than a man. Beneath the Mother of Mountains, a line of naked crones crept from a great lake and knelt shivering before her, their grey heads bowed.

 All these seems to be related with her old life in the Dothraki Sea, somehow. The first one is a symbolism of Dany’s dragons being born from the sacrifice. Thne naked man bound to the silver horse is the poisoner who tried to sell Daenerys the poisoned wine, and a white lion is the one Drogo hunted for her. The crones are the old Khaleesis of Vaes Dothrak, paying homeage to her after it was “foretold” that she would give birth to the Stallion Who Mounts the World.

Ten thousand slaves lifted bloodstained hands as she raced by on her silver, riding like the wind. “Mother!” they cried. “Mother, mother!”

This is a clear vision of the future, a foreshadowing of Daenerys’ victory and freeing of the slaves in Yunkai. It was the said slaves who dubbed Daenerys as “mother” in many different tongues and dialects.
The House of the Undying chapter was perhaps one of the richest and fullest (in terms of supernatural and foreshadowing) chapters in all ASOIAF. For every single vision, there are several interpretations, but some of them have more proof than others. 

lets see my comment;

It has nothing to do with being a strong woman. I don't even see her as that strong of a woman. f*ck almost every other woman in this series seems to be at least as strong as her. Catelyn, Cersey, Shea, Arya, Margaery, the older Tyrell woman. 
Daenerys is more of an arrogant, naive child who somehow always wins. She really sticks out like a sore thumb in a world that is otherwise dark and gritty. How many ridiculous mistakes has she made now? How many times would she have died if she were another character? Seriously, lets just count the ridiculously lucky breaks that she got with no effort on her part: Being let into Qarth because of that guy's machinations. Being severely underestimated by the warlocks. Being severely underestimated by the slave owner guy to the point that his actions are idiotic. The mercenary guy betraying his friends for no adequate reason and joining her instead of killing her. Surviving two? assassination attempts through sheer, blind luck. What else? I'm sure I'm missing some.

And what has she actually done? Directly caused her husband's death, (this was back when her stupidity/naivete was still being punished) and now appears to have set out on some misguided quests to end slavery in the world. How was that last scene not incredibly cringe-worthy? She says "you owe me nothing" to the great unwashed masses that she has liberated and then they worship her as mother. Is she the second coming of Christ and thus her incredible streak of luck is due to god's favour? Otherwise her story-line makes no fuckin' sense in a world that's supposed to be realistic and gritty. 

Daenerys is basically the equivalent of putting John McClane in The Godfather trilogy. It makes no fuckin' sense and undermines the tone of all the other stuff going on. Now that she has the inevitable mercenary/love interest who might as well be called "prince charming", I'm really starting to get scared that she might be GRRM's Mary Sue, which would really be a huge downer.
I really, REALLY, hope GRRM is pulling my leg on this one and that she will meet a gruesome fate (or at least some huge setback that teaches her to smarten the f*ck up). On the other hand he might be keeping her as to throw a bone to the people who just want fairytale escapism and cannot handle a realistic, dramatic tale without a "knight in shinning armour" character.

Phew. I think that rant was good for me. Had that stuff pent up for too long.



What are your thoughts?





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